lol, if this doesnt ban that there is something wrong with every slot boot in the entire game, each of the bans... Bl4Ck, what are you using to learn C? Im in the process of teaching myself, cause im beast in VB (i know the commands aren't even all that similar, but knowing vb functions has given me a definate upper hand in my quest to move to C), just curious if you know somehwere to get tut's that I may not have seen before, pm me any info, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, my can my knowledge of visual basic, and my substandard knowledge of C help me make codes? ive never even tried exploring codes and/or functions, and hooks, and all that stuff. I know that compared to programming altering a program with a HEX editor is a basic, yet, as advanced as it gets (one wrong letter and you F up the entire program). let me know. maybe a tut on different addresses and corresponding values? get at me if you have time.