Atheism

[Sneaky Poptart]

I understand that not all of them believe in the big bang theory but you said that scientists were creating new theories based on "concrete facts". Atheists might believe in these new theories when they come out but since they are theories, they cannot have been created using concrete facts. They are still theories, ideas, guesses. Nothing can be absolutely proven.

[Sneaky Poptart]

Most of those stars are dead to, the light just hasn't reached us yet.

[Pink Floyd]

Most of those stars are dead to, the light just hasn't reached us yet.

Wrong and correct. Most stars are damn well alive, being only, what...10 Billion years old? Stars can convert hydrogen into helium for 50+ billion years, at proportional rates. The light hasn't reached us, true, but yet again, so false. Light travels at 300K KM/S. In a sense, anything we can see has "reached us" in terms of light energy. But anything we can't see is...well...unimportant, and unknown. Yes there are more stars, but this has no relevance with the big bang, or atheism.

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I know after looking on Wiki it was theorized to have happened 13.7 billion years ago. And you guys know there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth.

A damn lot more. Estimated 1,000 BILLION BILLION BILLION TRILLION, if I recall from AP Astronomy correctly.

Scientific Notation:
1 x 10^42

Note that there are only 1 x 10^61 atoms in our dear earth, and around 1 x 10^82 Atoms in the "universe."

[Zeus]

Wrong and correct. Most stars are damn well alive, being only, what...10 Billion years old? Stars can convert hydrogen into helium for 50+ billion years, at proportional rates. The light hasn't reached us, true, but yet again, so false. Light travels at 300K KM/S. In a sense, anything we can see has "reached us" in terms of light energy. But anything we can't see is...well...unimportant, and unknown. Yes there are more stars, but this has no relevance with the big bang, or atheism.[/COLOR]

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A damn lot more. Estimated 1,000 BILLION BILLION BILLION TRILLION, if I recall from AP Astronomy correctly.

Scientific Notation:
1 x 10^42

Note that there are only 1 x 10^61 atoms in our dear earth, and around 1 x 10^82 Atoms in the "universe."

Ahh, yes. I read the part that said the Universe sprang into existence around 13.7 billion years ago.

[Sneaky Poptart]

So unless your bronze age desert god is some disgusting hermaphrodite who locks himself away in the ridiculous kingdom of heaven; afraid of how his cosmetic attributes will affect his "subject's" projection of him, I don't see why else he would do that. Unless he created us just to waste time and oxygen, and then laugh at us as we bow down and get fucked by the long dick of religion and humility.

Touche. You are very intelligent and this was a good conversation. That part was a little much but whatever. I am however sticking to my religion lol.

[Pink Floyd]

Touche. You are very intelligent and this was a good conversation. That part was a little much but whatever. I am however sticking to my religion lol.

Do you have a better description? I am setting a bar here.

[Sneaky Poptart]

I do, but I don't feel like continuing this as it may get out of hand.

[Pink Floyd]

I do, but I don't feel like continuing this as it may get out of hand.

I invite you to sent me a personal message of your description.

[CoDeX]

I agree that religion is bullshit. But it has good and bad qualities. It brings people together or keeps them apart. Just believe in what you want or not. Just don't be an asshole and tell people what to belive in.

[B1G_BR0TH3R]

[sarcasm]
all religion is bullshit, except scientology, that shit is real!!!
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